Sandman ID

[rawlysresto]

Hi guys have just joined My Sandman and would appreciate your knowledge on below. They are 2 vehicles I own which we are starting to do full rotisserie nut and bolt restoration on. Would like to everyone’s thought on authenticity as they are both in the HJ “grey area” as far as age goes.
Number one is a Ute.
HJ8WN80 11/74. AHJ01831M. 8N80REJ456931J
456931M
1899-64V. 2200kg. Seat 2
567-15945
L32 M20 GU4
Number two is a van
HJ8WM70. 8/75. BHJ32293A. 8M70REL319102J
161992-A.
1890-19V. 2200kg. Seat 2
568-15953
L32 M20 GU4
Both have normal sandman extras gts dash wheel console floor shift etc. The van also has full headlining with hooks at rear and has courtesy light switches?? don’t know if there meant to be. The Ute identified as a sandman on here years ago.
Thanks

[wbute]

Try HHS report.

[Valencia]

Yes piece of mind HHS is the go

[Sandaro]

Welcome rawlys. Have you found the old thread on here for the ute? If you have link put a link up.

The van sounds like a sandman to me, lots of promising signs in that details you've given.

As the other guys said, get the certificate for them both. Both could be regarded as ambiguous otherwise. Good to have the definite proof

[rawlysresto]

Thanks. Excuse the ignorance but what is a HHS report.

[maxsandman]

Thanks. Excuse the ignorance but what is a HHS report.

Google; "Holden Historical Service", & contact Ben thru there

[rawlysresto]

Thanks will do. Let you know how it goes.

[rawlysresto]

Thanks Sandro. I think when I first inquired was before the current site format and I don’t have any record or link sorry.

[george]

hello

first get the HHS report to verify , it looks like the ute is a kingswood optioned with sandman extras . the panelvan seems to have some of the correct features of a sandman XU3 and looks promising , but get the HHS report to be sure.

[rawlysresto]

Sorry for late reply but has been a very busy/hectic few workshop months. So contacted Ben and happy to report that both vehicles were on his register as original Sandman builds. The ute being very early is one of the Kingswood base vehicles used for the Sandman option. We have since had some spare time and stripped the van back. Not pretty but we will easily salvage. Currently on a rotisserie awaiting months of welding and panel work. Thanks for the help.