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    HZ Sandman options

    Just stole this on the Facebook page. It states that power windows, cloth trim seats and a remote mirror were optional. Unless it's a dealer fit thing I didn't think any of that was available in any commercial vehicles??
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    I had always believed it true and knew of Vans (not necessarily Sandmans, although they might have been) that had cloth seats and power windows upon delivery (all late HZ's)
    We discussed it before on the forum but Byron was adamant it could only be dealer fitted options. As with all end of run models the parts bins need to be emptied and promos start to happen.
    The article is interesting but without context (atleast here). What print media is it from? Could be an official GMH magazine or could be a dealer story in a review magazine or just a reporter making up the options available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post
    I had always believed it true and knew of Vans (not necessarily Sandmans, although they might have been) that had cloth seats and power windows upon delivery (all late HZ's)
    We discussed it before on the forum but Byron was adamant it could only be dealer fitted options. As with all end of run models the parts bins need to be emptied and promos start to happen.
    The article is interesting but without context (atleast here). What print media is it from? Could be an official GMH magazine or could be a dealer story in a review magazine or just a reporter making up the options available.
    Yep... Generally a list of options were available when you'd sit down at the dealership to order your van. Depending on who you were or who you knew you could "ask" for something extra from the Premier or Statesman bin, and as you state, the closer to the end of a model run you were, the bigger the chance of scoring some goodies.
    There is however, the reality of the time that most people walked onto the car lot and bought one of the vans that was already there..... most of us couldn't wait an hour, let alone 3-6 weeks for a van. So 99% of the buyers got what they got. Most big dealers would have 10 or more Sandmans on the lot so there was enough choice of colour and engine/box that the buyer was happy.
    The other thing to remember is that almost everyone wanted to customise their van immediately with wheels/tyres and stereo plus curtains and mattress..... nobody cared about remote mirrors and power windows.

    Whoever wrote this was probably just quoting from the general options list, or the options list was printed well in advance and things changed before production.
    Vans.... This is the 2nd time round the block, 40 years later! talk about turning back the clock!

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    Yeah dealer options and manufacturer options are different things. The way that is written it appears they are manufacturer options that were never available. Who has ever seen a wiring harness to suit factory power windows in a commercial vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Yeah dealer options and manufacturer options are different things. The way that is written it appears they are manufacturer options that were never available. Who has ever seen a wiring harness to suit factory power windows in a commercial vehicle?
    never
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbute View Post
    Yeah dealer options and manufacturer options are different things. The way that is written it appears they are manufacturer options that were never available. Who has ever seen a wiring harness to suit factory power windows in a commercial vehicle?
    100% correct. But it's not the fact that it's a commercial vehicle, it's just that there was no 2-way power window switch in the GM-H parts catalogue. The drivers door or master switch was always a 4-way item, because all 4 power windows could be operated from the driver's seat.

    It would've been easy for the dealer to fit power windows, just make a custom harness & use 2 single switches on the driver's door. Not the way the factory would've done it.

    Having said that, 2-way power window switches were used in GM vehicles in the US, so if you want to make a factory look windowed Sandman it can be achieved, by importing one of those.

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