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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Van View Post
    I just want people to sit in it and say "So this is what they were like in the day"

    This is exactly the same for my rebuild, as long as it looks the same as it did when the first owner fired it up, im quite okay with doing safety and performance updates.

    i like the way the swaybar was done too, im going to have to replicate this on mine as the sedan diff housings have the swaybar mounts in different spots. im glad you posted that pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Van View Post

    I just want people to sit in it and say "So this is what they were like in the day"
    Thats where I'm heading with mine. You'll notice I didnt mention that you had the incorrect hose clamps and fan belt

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    I think the fuel, air and water passing through the motor is not genuine 70's material....I'm slack :Tongue:
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    Since I stripped the tyres off the rims and had them sandblasted I guess I'll have to find that guy that sells period correct air.....NOT :yawn:

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    I have it in a bottle here mate. Only $1,000 a litre non compressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickthis View Post
    Rear swaybars where part of the RTS package yes. The diff had mounts welded on not u bolts also ;)

    Clutch. Rat trap was used in HJ. Half cable/half mechanical started in HX sometime I think? HZ had full cable clutch. hmmm hoping I got that close.

    Spacer bushes on the steer pump dont look to be thick enough. Being picky I know. Originals where about 7/8 in dia. Where as those look to be 3/4 at the most. Or 1/2 pipe maybe. Maybe they are just too long making them look smaller? Will have to measure some for you.

    Bottom pully on motor. Aslong as its a 2 V and hasnt got the extra 1 V bolted onto it its correct. The extra front V was used for the A/C.
    Not picking on your post Jason, had to start somewhere.

    HQ and HJ have the full rat-trap clutch setup as Greg says.
    HX have the half cable, half rat-trap.
    HZ until ~mid 1978 have the same as HX. After that they have the WB style full cable.
    HJ had no rear sway bar.
    HJ had big nut like HQ. That master cylinder is a HZ aftermarket with th rear resevoir on the front of the cylinder.
    Fan shroud is wrong, should be no shroud.

    Don't worry about judges. Just build it up and enjoy it. In my opinion the only Sandmans that should be left original are those really original untouched examples. Anything else restore as you like, just make them look standard. No-one cares if they have a injected 304 or a stroked 308 in them. Just don't do stupid things like cut holes in the floor for some stupid oversized gearbox, or to fit Commodore seats or doof doof speakers. I reckon there would be nothing cooler than an original looking HJ Sandman ute or van that has an injected, stroked 5 litre in it (with QT engine number), 4L60 box, original diff, widened 15" GTS rims, power steer, factory HJ-WB A/C and original looking interior albeit with hidden modern sound and cruise control. No-one would do this to an untouched car, but why not do it to yours? It'll cost you about the same as a concours attempt and be much easier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickthis View Post
    I have it in a bottle here mate. Only $1,000 a litre non compressed.
    And the usual response is "Mate i can get it cheaper on ebay"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post

    Don't worry about judges. Just build it up and enjoy it. In my opinion the only Sandmans that should be left original are those really original untouched examples. Anything else restore as you like, just make them look standard. No-one cares if they have a injected 304 or a stroked 308 in them. Just don't do stupid things like cut holes in the floor for some stupid oversized gearbox, or to fit Commodore seats or doof doof speakers. I reckon there would be nothing cooler than an original looking HJ Sandman ute or van that has an injected, stroked 5 litre in it (with QT engine number), 4L60 box, original diff, widened 15" GTS rims, power steer, factory HJ-WB A/C and original looking interior albeit with hidden modern sound and cruise control. No-one would do this to an untouched car, but why not do it to yours? It'll cost you about the same as a concours attempt and be much easier!
    Will do my best
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    haha too easy Byron. I got most right =) wasnt a bad attempt.

    Like others say do it how you want it. I am doing a silly build on a HZ GTS. 100% original. But thats what I want to do. When done it will be one of the most orginal HZ GTS's around. But I doubt I will show it as its for me to enjoy not others lol.

    Make your car YOUR own.
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    HZ GTS. Palais White. Next Resto From 99% NOS Parts.
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    VR SS into a VS Supercar Castrol Perkins Ingall 1997 Tribuilte build

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    Making it my own...with a little help from the forum members.

    Cut the roof off another genuine sandman today, unfortunately no id tags for Byron's data base. Will use it to repair mine.

    The rest of the body and chassis was rusted badly. The chassis was wrong for the body also.
    Mad Max 1 Van, HJ XX7 Van

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