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Thread: Sandman without original chassis. Still a Sandman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vombil View Post
    yeah value is another discussion altogether. however, i'm sure if the rails matched it would have sold 6 months ago.
    I agree with you again.

    That's twice in one night !!!

    All I am saying is if Cam likes the car, knows the full story, not quite a Sandman, and buys it, good for him.

    Once again, in the spirit of honest opinioning, LMAO, I'm not a huge fan of utes soooooooooooooo yeah.

    Waits for the rage!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vombil View Post
    oh no, not this again....

    where is the identity if you can replace the rails and still have a sandman?? ultimately it's the rails that identify the vehicle in WA ie if its a WB rail number with HJ everything else, it's still seen here as a WB. I'm not sure the greater majority would see this ute as a sandman if the body had been swapped... so if the identity is not in the rails (as most mentioned, it's still a sandman) and it's not in the body as the body has no ID numbers (generally)then it must be in the tags... but you need the body to help ID and reconfirm tags so really it's not a sandman unless it's all together in one original piece imo.
    The legal identity is with the chassis numbers, and the vehicle's identity (as in what it left GMH as) is with the ID plates, specifically the BODY plate.

    Regardless it isn't what it once was and as such would be devalued accordingly. It would be better to have a set of blank rails fitted and a Police issued chassis number.

    I'd rather a complete original Kingswood like Nocturne's than a non-matching Sandman. But at the right price it is a still a good thing.

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    All good arguments, but let's get real about things..... It's over 30 years old and had an accident that required a replacement chassis section. The rest of the ute is as it was originally.
    I'd be devastated if My perfect, original Sandman ute was no longer regarded as a Sandman because a panel beater used a second hand chassis section (common practice at the time), possibly covered by an insurance claim.

    The chassis should have been either re-stamped with the original number or had the new number removed and a police number stamped, but in my opinion the owner (and subsequent owners) shouldn't be penalised for an accident.
    Vans.... This is the 2nd time round the block, 40 years later! talk about turning back the clock!

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