Sandman Values ?

[Flamenco_not_Flamingo]

It's great that prices keep climbing, I personally have had good fortune over these last 18 months buying and selling sandmans BUT some people are completely unrealistic and emotionally attached to cars placing those heart strings where price should be.

I personally can't tell you the amount of times I have turned up to look at a car and the first statement is" My mates tell me it's worth $x and that I'm selling it too cheap"

I am sure I am not the only one and I guess we don't want to hurt our friends feelings but I always feel emotions rule most people that's what I have gleaned in my experience in buying and selling.

Having said all that,who doesn't like money lol

[hqhzvans]

They have another 10 to 15 years and then they will drop in value rapidly. Look at EH Holdens dropping in value these days.
I can't see how restoration cost has any bearing on the value. Demand and supply are the only determining factors on value. It costs the same to restore a HX Kingswood sedan as a HX Sandman. The value of the car is not the same though.
If you are selling them for 50k plus that's great. It's great they are returning the restoration costs.

I kinda see where your coming from but I think restoration cost does play a part or perhaps more importantly restoration process if a car has been fully restored no expense spared this will determine the value greatly as well as supply and demand but if you overcapitalise which is easy to do say spend 80k on a resto you will probably still only get around 50k for your hard work, people are out there that dont want to do the hard yards or dont have the time but have the money and will pay the premium prices, It will be interesting to see in 10-15 years what they are worth I have heard that thrown around before that the value will drop due to the generation of people wanting them decreasing but why is this not so with older type cars like hot rods or early Chevs etc, and as far I know EH Holdens are still pulling good money from what I see to fine and full restored one you are looking at 40k plus I am not talking stock EH. Will there be a spike one Holden stops local production and will some various models of the Commodore or HSV line also spike in value and demand time will tell. In regards to the GT's and Monaro's that pulled huge dollars those days are long gone and the owners will never recoup there money as there were other factors at play that steam rolled those increase in values. End of the day you will pay what you want for a car if you want it bad enough unless your unrealistic or a tight arse

[Flamenco_not_Flamingo]

I'm probably a tight arse Lmfao

[HK1837]

I kinda see where your coming from but I think restoration cost does play a part or perhaps more importantly restoration process if a car has been fully restored no expense spared this will determine the value greatly as well as supply and demand but if you overcapitalise which is easy to do say spend 80k on a resto you will probably still only get around 50k for your hard work, people are out there that dont want to do the hard yards or dont have the time but have the money and will pay the premium prices, It will be interesting to see in 10-15 years what they are worth I have heard that thrown around before that the value will drop due to the generation of people wanting them decreasing but why is this not so with older type cars like hot rods or early Chevs etc, and as far I know EH Holdens are still pulling good money from what I see to fine and full restored one you are looking at 40k plus I am not talking stock EH. Will there be a spike one Holden stops local production and will some various models of the Commodore or HSV line also spike in value and demand time will tell. In regards to the GT's and Monaro's that pulled huge dollars those days are long gone and the owners will never recoup there money as there were other factors at play that steam rolled those increase in values. End of the day you will pay what you want for a car if you want it bad enough unless your unrealistic or a tight arse

Pretty well put.

The cost of restoration is one of the main reasons i'm always harping on about ensuring you are spending all those $ on the right car. It costs the same to restore a 6cyl Sandman as a 308 one, and spending twice as much to buy a rust free example can save you half your paint and panel cost. So you are far more likely to see a better return fom a 308 rust free Sandman than from a repaired 6cyl one. Seems like common sense but there are still people out there buying $7000 rust bucket 6cyl or 253 examples when there is far better value in a $15000 solid 308 example. Or even in a $15000 253 example with its original driveline.

[davegmh]

Some very interesting views put forward. But let me ask one more question.
Do you think comments made on this site whether they be complimentary or critical of a Sandman for sale, have any effect on the final sale price ? I would think that because a lot of people seem to come here asking questions about a particular car or buying a car that the answer would be 'sometimes'.

[wbute]

Supply and demand is what determines the value. The quality of the restoration is what lifts a car to its potential, not what creates the market.

[wbute]

Some very interesting views put forward. But let me ask one more question.
Do you think comments made on this site whether they be complimentary or critical of a Sandman for sale, have any effect on the final sale price ? I would think that because a lot of people seem to come here asking questions about a particular car or buying a car that the answer would be 'sometimes'.

Yes. As can be seen more so now as the information from this site becomes more commonly known. As can be seen by some heated discussion on here regarding comments made about a car it can also not help with a sale.
I took photos of a van about 3 years ago for someone in Brisbane. I specifically didn't want them put up here as I had no right in influencing someone else's business. We are all guilty of putting comments up about cars for sale without really considering possible implications. Welcome to the world of social media. For better or for worse.

[davegmh]

Now I think my point is understood and you could be right on the money there WB.

[HK1837]

Some very interesting views put forward. But let me ask one more question.
Do you think comments made on this site whether they be complimentary or critical of a Sandman for sale, have any effect on the final sale price ? I would think that because a lot of people seem to come here asking questions about a particular car or buying a car that the answer would be 'sometimes'.

Maybe. In the end it is all subjective, and if a potential buyer sees people not like a certain aspect of a car then they are only further armed with info they need to consider should they choose to sell it.
In the end if a car is priced right it'll sell. I sold my V2 CV8 a few weeks ago via this site, it was priced right. If i'd said I wanted $10k more than I asked i'd have expected criticism.

[davegmh]

Fair call.