P-Plate laws in Victoria eased!

[Alien DNA]

And it's about bloody time some common sense prevailed. Now the rest of Australia has to catch up.

Must admit, I feel for you guys not in Vic, you really get the bad end of the stick when comes to modified cars. Fingers crossed this gets traction for you guys



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-1...rnment/5528564

P-platers will be able to drive V8 cars and heavy vehicles from next month, but supercars and high-performance vehicles are still off-limits.

The Victorian Government is relaxing vehicle restrictions to allow P-platers to drive heavier vehicles for work and smaller fuel-efficient V8 cars.

Under the new restrictions, power will be limited to 130 kilowatts per tonne instead of the number of cylinders.

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[chrisp]

Way too much scope for abuse...

[husky srt]

It doesn't affect me in the slightest, I'm not on P plates and I don't intend to have to go on them.

[Big Rob]

Back in the good old days when I was on P-plates, I had a HK van with a 350 Chev/Powerglide and I managed to come through it all unscathed, (although there were a few close calls), so I still reckon it's the driver, not the car that causes the problem.

[playwme]

Back in the good old days when I was on P-plates, I had a HK van with a 350 Chev/Powerglide and I managed to come through it all unscathed, (although there were a few close calls), so I still reckon it's the driver, not the car that causes the problem.

As with the rest of life, you need to make the rules to suit the lowest common denominator.

I got through unscathed in a 308 Sandman on a gravel road too but some of my classmates had some real corkers.

[HK1837]

Makes sense though. You could have a VG V6 ute but not a 253 HQ-WB ute which is silly as the VG will get you into far more trouble than the older example.

[Dr Terry]

Yes, NSW has the same silly P-plate laws. They a not permitted to drive any car which has a supercharger, turbocharger or V8 regardless of its engine size.

So they can drive an E49 Charger, XR6 Falcon or GTR XU1, but not a HiLux Diesel turbo, Suzuki Cappacino (660cc turbo). or HZ 253 wagon.

Dr Terry

[HK1837]

How silly is that Terry, on P-plates you can't drive a D4D Hilux but you an have a V6 one. The D4D accelerates about as fast as a 3 legged donkey but the V6 can be lethal if not driven carefully. When I first got mine it turned around on me on a wet road under normal acceleration out of a roundabout. Last Saturday I had to go to Sydney to pick up a microfilm scanner and I hit the throttle a fracton too hard on the freeway doing 100, and the back end kicked out 90deg, I doubt a p-plater would know how to deal with that.

[Dick61]

How silly is that Terry, on P-plates you can't drive a D4D Hilux but you an have a V6 one. The D4D accelerates about as fast as a 3 legged donkey but the V6 can be lethal if not driven carefully. When I first got mine it turned around on me on a wet road under normal acceleration out of a roundabout. Last Saturday I had to go to Sydney to pick up a microfilm scanner and I hit the throttle a fracton too hard on the freeway doing 100, and the back end kicked out 90deg, I doubt a p-plater would know how to deal with that.

I reckon a P plater would do exactly the same as I would have,
I'd have shit myself!!
On a more serious note, the new regulations for Victoria are no more than a cynical attempt to keep older vehicles off the road. The easing of restrictions applies only to cars newer than 2010 models. The excuse is that it will be based on power to weight ratio and as there is no national listing of power to weight ratios for cars prior to 2010, they can't allow them to be driven. A total cop out in my opinion, if some little clerk in the Vicroads can't be given instruction in the use of a calculator and a list of the weights of standard model vehicles along with a list of the engines and the the kw ratings of the engines of these vehicles, so that a list of permissable vehicles can be made, then we are living in a in a very unenlightened society. It is not rocket science. The media release states that it will still be an offence to drive pre 2010 vehicles on P plates that are currently on the prohibited list as they will still be prohibited under the new system.
Oh, BTW, currently you are allowed to drive a D4D hilux on P plates as turbo diesels are exempt from the bullshit. You can drive a VW Golf Turbo Diesel (90kw 1.4l turbo diesel) on P's but not a Fiat 500 Lounge (62kw 900cc turbo).

[jennie285]

Yes, NSW has the same silly P-plate laws. They a not permitted to drive any car which has a supercharger, turbocharger or V8 regardless of its engine size.

So they can drive an E49 Charger, XR6 Falcon or GTR XU1, but not a HiLux Diesel turbo, Suzuki Cappacino (660cc turbo). or HZ 253 wagon.

Dr Terry

Dr terry I understood any v8 diesel SUV or utes etc were an exception to the rule as most of the farming community drive these and their kids needed to use their parents cars