Gday folks just having trouble trying to work out what a Silver 2004 VY series 2 SS ute/van with HBD stamp is worth. 200,000 kms and Auto. Bit untidy on the inside, mech is perfect. Leather and climate cont, dvd screen. needs paint on bumper and bonnet and a good clean!
I'm thinking its circa $15-17k
thoughts appreciated from those lads who know more about them would be ace
BQZ
That one sounds closer to $15K
But it's a supply and demand kind of thing.
You need to think about how much you need to spend to make into a $20K car. The 200,000 clock is part of the issue.
yeah my concern was that it would never be a $20,000 vehicle. The ones ive seen seem to hang on the market for a while if they are near the 20'sOriginally Posted by Innuendo
BQZ
The ones worth owing sell for $20K and over (high optioned with low Klms). Overpriced ones (mainly V6 poverty packs) hang about listed for sale waiting and wishing.
Better to pay more for a desirable one instead of $15K roughy that needs cash and work thrown at it only to still have a huge number on the clock.
yeah but they arent collectable. at this point they are in the usable category. 200,000 is a drop in the ocean. shouldve done more like 250,000 to 300,000 being a commercial trade type vehicle
BQZ
I think you are talking about values for a car with much lower kms & full tilt front line retail price. $15K-$20K is a lot of $$$ for a VY of any type.
On the Sydney market it would struggle to get half that.
Only last week I passed up a 2004 VY series 2 SS ute with 165,000 km on it for $5,000. It was in reasonable nick, probably needing about $1,000 to bring the body & paint up to scratch. Add the HSV canopy to that (Red Book allows $2K-$3K). I could be on the road for $8K-$9K.
A young bloke that works with us, recently purchased a late 2005 VZ HSV Maloo R8 in immaculate condition with 105,000 km on it. This was a one owner Limited Edition 15th Anniversary model (Only 50 Built) & had later (larger) HSV alloys, bigger exhaust & a MAFless tune. He owned it for $18K. The previous owner had it on the market for over 4 months.
The current used car market is very depressed, so expecting $15K-$17K for a 200,000+ km VY van is a bit keen.
Dr Terry
The current used car market is very depressed, so expecting $15K-$17K for a 200,000+ km VY van is a bit keen.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement. Sydney has always had cheap cars. Everyone wants new there. It's not as though these van/utes are growing on trees (i also appreciate ppl aren't 10 deep in the wings either). I just sold the same Vz 06 series 2 Maloo R8 (not ann model) you mentioned over here for $21,000 and it had more miles, plenty more owners, scratches, dents and needed paint to front end (if fussy), needed 1x tyre and new rotors and discs all the way round!
BQZ
Sorry Terry I feel your not really up to speed on on these.
224 HBD official Sandman canopies were released between VY SII to the end of VZ and all carry a HBD CAN marked tag/plate in the engine bay. People who apparently know their Holden's know you can't buy a HBD canopy and you certainly can't get one for 2 to 3K so I have no idea where the Red book value comes from or where they feel you can get one from? OK you can get an AMCAT version new for over $7,000 fitted but these are not exactly the same as the original HBD (even though out of the original mould) the mould has been modified. I suppose it could be a factor of depreciation but that is unrealistic if you can't obtain one the very day it's required. I'm guessing they are talking some other type of bolt on canopy for that money? As for the young blokes HSV Ute you mention $18K plus NEW canopy makes it $25K plus and he would still not have an official one of the 224. Where as on the market recently has been a couple of genuine HSV R8 factory HBD Sandman versions for sale at between $27 and $35K.
I'm with 100% on the high Klms and the asking prices though. But that said the low Klms versions do sell for $20K plus.
Some may class them as a tradies Ute but not most. Not collectible? I beg to differ. These are a limited numbers release with official numbering and own unique characteristics.
Of course the more that were used as tradie pigs and the more that discount them as collectible will only help make them more scarce and desirable into the future.
A "normal" car is expected to gain 20,000Klms per year. Anything over this is classed as excessive Klms. So this one is "as expected" for regular shopping trolley. I have records of asking prices for these over the last 3 years and the Klms showing. Quite a few are under 120,000 with some under 100,000Klms. $15K is about right for this car based on what has been mentioned. Of course Western Australia is a different market. I just missed out on one that I was keen on for just under $20K and my son is selling his and has 2 on the hook at just over $20K (although no sale just yet).
If people think less, then I say go and buy one. You'd be lucky to even find one, let alone secure it for less than $15K.
Talking is not doing!
My point is spend a bit more and get a better car. If you only wanted as a trade pig or shopping trolley then your right 200,000Klms is not going to worry you.
Last edited by Innuendo; 03-03-2014 at 08:38 PM.
much appreciate your data and views on this one inners. VY SS utes are very common over here at the moment and have taken a hiding in value. You'll still need $12-13K in your pocket to get a good one with under 150kays... oh and the VE SS... piled 10 high at the tip! They are everywhere!!!!
BQZ
Yeah, same here you will need $12 to 18K for a really good low Klms VY SS. But factory Sandman canopy "tagged" versions are always thin on the ground and you will pay around 5K more for something is the same condition. At $15K I reckon it could be worth it and if you can get for less then that would be a bonus. Keeping in mind what cash needs to be thrown at it after purchase.
For me the value is in the rarity of the factory Sandman canopy option otherwise is "just" another SS Ute. So base the value of this car as if it was a normal SS Ute and whatever that would be worth then add the 5K for the canopy conversion, HBD tag and all that implies. You know your buying 1 of 224 made (over two models) and a lot were poverty V6 versions.
Believe me you don't pass one very often, they turn heads and people want to talk about it whenever you stop.
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