Keep Holden

[SLR_dave]

I never knew about the Isuzu Deville. Pretty cool thing to find out about, thanks for that Byron.

Wikipedia says 246 were sold in Japan, so not huge exports, but it shows GMH did try more extensively than I realised to export to Japan in the early 70's.

It seems the Izusu was sold in Japan as Izusu Deville "by GMH". Not sure what I think of the seat trim material, Its pretty wild, I wonder if theres any at any wreckers in Japan... um.. do they have auto wreckers in Japan?
http://www.bellett.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=501
The same website quotes 799 Mazda Roadpacers sold (scrolling down the discussion page).

So thats 945 units exported to Japan by Holden in the early mid 70's. Not too bad imagining the competition for the luxury car market in Japan?

[Bigtonkatoy]

I have checked the facebook page, it should be working, but you need to be a member of facebook, maybe I should have chosen a different social media website?
But, as the first post in the thread acknowleges, now that Toyotas gone, I dunno that this would be enough now. Still worth a try, it's there, who knows what will happen.

I think I found it it has a picture of a fj Holden I was just click on the link instead of typing it in

[SLR_dave]

Yep, that is th one, first name is Keep, Surname is Holden. The link from this site may not work in all browsrs, I think thats a facebook thing. Working on it slowly...

[Flamenco_not_Flamingo]

Thanks to everyone for all the info about the Mazda Road pacer.

I found it very interesting and insightful and as Dave stated back there some where, GMH were having a try!

[HK1837]

You'd be amazed at where Holdens went. HK's went to Hawaii in LHD. There were Holdens sold in Fiji, Malaysia, Japan, Indonesia, South Africa, NZ just to name a few. Some were sold as a Holden, others rebadged as Chevrolets, Opels, Mazdas and Isuzu. Plus as well as Holdens there were Toranas, Statesmans and Commodores too. I saw a VS as an Opel Calais on the island of Langkawi in Malaysia. Malaysia, South Africa and NZ even assembled some cars using different drivelines. The South African cars had Chev 250ci 6cyl and TH350 in all manner of HK-HJ with Chev style rear axles. Some like the South African Chev SS were made after the HG was finished here, using totally different frontal treatment and stockpiled HG engines.
All very cool stuff once you start looking into it.

[SLR_dave]

pOLITE nOTE: I have just, on good consideration, closed down the 'Keep Holden' facebook profile. (I'll make this evident at the link on page #1 of this thread).

This is not due to disinterest, it was just getting started, but, social media is not as simple as it may immediately look (even though I thought I had it sussed).

An idea like that really needs it's own website, I'll be considering it over the next weeks.

Re the Roadpacer, and Izusu Deville, (about one page back) I agree Flamenco, and the information from members on this site is a neat read. (Byron and Dr Terry ace on it of course!)

[Dr Terry]

I think having a 'try' is a bit patronising.

At their peak, GM-H exported to over 80 countries & had CKD assembly plants in at least 6 countries outside Australia. After the late 60s GM-H became the main supplier of right-hand-drive exports in the GM world. GM North America were only interested in LHD.

A lot of export markets were $$ driven, if the exchange was good then we export, if not then forget it.

Dr Terry

[SLR_dave]

You'd be amazed at where Holdens went. HK's went to Hawaii in LHD. There were Holdens sold in Fiji, Malaysia, Japan, Indonesia, South Africa, NZ just to name a few. Some were sold as a Holden, others rebadged as Chevrolets, Opels, Mazdas and Isuzu. Plus as well as Holdens there were Toranas, Statesmans and Commodores too. I saw a VS as an Opel Calais on the island of Langkawi in Malaysia. Malaysia, South Africa and NZ even assembled some cars using different drivelines. The South African cars had Chev 250ci 6cyl and TH350 in all manner of HK-HJ with Chev style rear axles. Some like the South African Chev SS were made after the HG was finished here, using totally different frontal treatment and stockpiled HG engines.
All very cool stuff once you start looking into it.

Yep it is, it's like you get a whole new chapter. I knew about South Africa and the Middle East (generally sold as Chevs in the middle East I thought) And I think also India, where there was a Torana sold as an Ambassador? I was told, but dunno where that was made, may have been produced in that country after production ceased here?

[Dr Terry]

Yep it is, it's like you get a whole new chapter. I knew about South Africa and the Middle East (generally sold as Chevs in the middle East I thought) And I think also India, where there was a Torana sold as an Ambassador? I was told, but dunno where that was made, may have been produced in that country after production ceased here?

I believe that the Hindustan Ambassador was a remake of the Morris Oxford from the 50s but with a Diesel motor fitted.

AFAIK there were CKD assembly plants in Pakistan, The Philippines, Indonesia, Sth Africa, New Zealand, possibly Indonesia & would you believe Trinidad & Tobago.

Other than Royale & the various Sth African variants, Kommando, Constantia, SS, El Camino, El Toro etc. I'm not aware of other 'odd' badges on Holdens.

Dr Terry

[Flamenco_not_Flamingo]

I think having a 'try' is a bit patronising.

At their peak, GM-H exported to over 80 countries & had CKD assembly plants in at least 6 countries outside Australia. After the late 60s GM-H became the main supplier of right-hand-drive exports in the GM world. GM North America were only interested in LHD.

A lot of export markets were $$ driven, if the exchange was good then we export, if not then forget it.

Dr Terry

No intention of being patronising, just expressing GMH's zeal in the colloquial vernacular.