1-If you came across a sandman van that had been cut into a ute and was in good/very good condition would you buy it?
2-What type of van cut into a ute would you consider worthy of you not passing it up or do you think they are just no longer authentic as a sandman if chopped?
3-How much do you think they have been devalued buy once chopped?
Look forward to hearing your opinions ,
Seavan
It devalues it a lot.
If it was cheap you would buy it.
It depends on your thoughts on re-shelling.
You could put a fibreglass canopy on it and call it a panelvan. It works for HBD equipped utes.
1. Price dependant.
2. HQ 308. Still a Sandman, just been modified.
3. To me a Sandman ute is more valuable than a van of the same spec. But a ute butchered into a van or van butchered into a ute has to be devalued relative to either body style by at least 30-40% compared to the original shape in the same condition.
HK1837 when you say HQ 308 how do you pick the difference between a 253 or 308 off HQ tags? Does the M20 still stand for 253? It does on the hj x z tag info but does not mention how to pick the engine size combo on the tag break down for HQ Sandman Identification.
alredy done this.
1 yes i did buy it
2 as lomg as it is a sandman or 308 4 speed
3 not worth anyware near the value of unchoppedvan (but you can always put a windowless roof cut back on)
170 is 6cyl 270 is V8Originally Posted by seavan
If it is a 270 (Factory V8) and the Tag ENG is blank this means standard V8 and thus a 253. If L31 it's a 308.
M20 doesn't mean 253! M20 = 4 Speed Manual. It would M21 for a 308 with 4 Speed.
Yep, M20 is the wide ratio 4-Speed box, M21 is the close ratio, which was the standard 4-Speed fitted to a 308.
Vans.... This is the 2nd time round the block, 40 years later! talk about turning back the clock!
Glad your on to it "Innuendo". Something else I now know.
"Proud To Be An Old Fart".
the vin tag ... Skinny one starts with 8M70 (panelvan) or 8M80, 8N80 (ute) and then a letter... This letter designates the engine size.
8M70D .... 173 6cyl engine
8M70L .... 202 6cyl engine
8M70R .... 253 V8 engine
8M70T .... 308 V8 engine
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4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD
Yep that's another way. You will also note that the engine number will also follow that sequence.
173H = QDXXXXXXX
173L = QEXXXXXXX
202H = QLXXXXXXX
202L = QMXXXXXXX
253H = QRXXXXXXX
253L = QSXXXXXXX
308H = QTXXXXXXX
H = High Compression L= Low Compression engines.
Last edited by Innuendo; 09-01-2014 at 04:59 AM. Reason: Just for sport!
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