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    First Holden going to Auction

    http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...ds-to-auction/

    One would expect a classic car auction in Australia – particularly one scheduled to coincide with what is supposed to be Australia’s premier collector car weekend – to feature more than a couple of Holdens or other exclusive-to-Oz cars. Then again, of the two Holdens crossing the block at the Theodore Bruce auction later this month in Melbourne, one lays claim to being the first and oldest surviving Australian-built example of the brand and the first car that Australians could rightfully pronounce their own.


    Holden didn’t just appear from thin air with the introduction of its first model, the 48-215, in 1948. Rather, the company, which itself dates back to the 1850s, began building car bodies for a number of companies during World War I, and merged with General Motors in 1931. Toward the end of World War II, the Australian government realized the country needed an automotive industry of its own and declared that if no auto company then operating in the country could provide an Australian-built car, then the Australian government would do so itself. As Ken Gross told the tale in Special Interest Autos #49, February 1979, Holden’s managing director at the time, Laurence Hartnett, took that proclamation as a challenge.


    “Building a complete car wasn’t a problem for GM-H,” Hartnett told Gross. “After the many types of war materials we’d produced, automotive technology was comparatively simple. Besides, even before the war, we’d made most of the components ourselves.” In addition, Holden had a new factory at Fisherman’s Bend near Melbourne and a friend in the government willing to prod the project along – future Prime Minister Ben Chifley. All Hartnett needed was a car to build, which he found gathering dust in Detroit.


    Built before the war, prototype 195-Y-15 had come out of GM’s Light Car Project, which GM had all but forgotten over the prior eight years. Hartnett seemed to appreciate its unit-body design and small six-cylinder engine, and discovered that it met all of his requirements for an Australian car, so he had three running and driving cars based on the Light Car built in Detroit. At the same time, he assembled a team of engineers and shipped the three prototypes and the engineers to Australia to finalize the car’s design and to adapt it to Australian roads.


    Once back at Fisherman’s Bend in late 1946, Harnett and his team began testing and refining the three prototypes. The next year, they built two more prototypes, commonly referred to as Number Four and Number Five, neither of which bore any Holden badging because the brand name for GM’s Australian car wouldn’t be decided upon until shortly before the introduction of the 48-215 in November 1948. The latter has since been destroyed – as have two of the first three prototypes – leaving Number One, with the registration plate ZW-234 (now owned by the National Museum of Australia), and Number Four, with the registration plate of KJ-400. Powered by a 132.5-cu.in. overhead-valve six-cylinder engine, KJ-400 weighed about 2,250 pounds and rode a 103-inch wheelbase.

    KJ-400 reportedly posed for the first press photos and later underwent a restoration by one of the engineers involved in building it, at which time it apparently gained its Holden badging. Don Loffler’s book, Still Holden Together, noted that Holden sold KJ-400 to an employee in 1951 and that the car was eventually traded in on a new vehicle in the late 1950s at a dealership in Melbourne. For years it was mistakenly considered to be Number One, Loffler wrote, and not until the late 1990s was the record set straight.


    Current owner Peter Briggs bought KJ-400 in 1980 and offered it for sale a couple of years ago during a downsizing. At the time, the Australian reported that he believed it worth as much as AUS$2 million. The Theodore Bruce auction, to take place October 26 in conjunction with the Motorclassica show in Melbourne, has not released a pre-auction estimate for the car.



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    That is Prototype Number 4 not Number 1.
    Number 1 was restored by the Strongman's and as the article reads it's "now owned by the National Museum of Australia"
    I have original parts off Number 1 right here in my office (part of my prized Holden and NASCO collection) that I purchased from the Strongman's more than a decade ago.

    Still a very cool car with a lot of history. But again like that Bob Jane HQ wagon will only hold appeal for a certain few.

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    It's only a typo in our heading.

    The post our forum reads 'First Holden', but the heading in the original Hemmings blog reads 'First Australian-built Holden', which the no. 4 prototype actually is.

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    It's amazing how at least 3 cars claim to be Number 1 all in the effort to talk them up and give them a premier title. Don't get me wrong all of them are highly desirable in their own way and all are a great part of Holden history. Number 1 though has to be the first built no matter where or for what reason. All others can lay their claims, but their "first" (whatever that first happens to be) should be a secondary line not a heading in my opinion.

    1st Prototype
    1st Australian Prototype
    1st Production
    1st Sold

    It can go on and on...

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    I can add to that list.

    There are 2 'no. 1' production cars. When the first 10 (pilot) build cars were made on 30 Sept 1948, the body ID plates read sequentially from 001 to 010 (obviously), but that wasn't the order of actual assembly.

    Body no. 006 was the first car made & no. 001 was further down the list. The best explanation that I've heard was because of the light & dark paint colours, the lighter ones were painted first, as a result body no. 1 was a light cream colour & 009 & 010 were black. This was at the Woodville plant where the bodies were made, they were then transported to Fisherman's Bend & the order was shuffled. They just assembled each car as they came off the transporters & as a result no. 006 was the first car produced. The car that GMH display as the first production car is body no. 1 but wasn't the first car produced.

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    That's what I mean when I say "It can go on and on..."

    If somebody ends up paying 2 Million (way overs) they have more money then brains. The real Number 1 sold for just over 300K and it was done and dusted to museum quality.
    Sure the market has jumped and perhaps it undersold back then. But like I also said it "will only hold appeal for a certain few" and you have to find those few with very big wallets.

    But good luck to them with the sale and the restoration. Do you restore to prototype or to the 1951 sales guise?

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    Oh it's like Alpacas and Emus and Ostriches. Only the stupid get conned thinking its going to be the next big "investment". That car really needs to go into a museum. They hold no real value other than as a piece of Australian history.
    Same will go for all the 70's and 60's hero cars ultimately.
    They make no money for you. If you are very lucky they may retain the original purchase value(that's if you don't have to spend the same amount restoring them).
    Stop trying to make them into money earners and just sink the dollars into them to fulfill your own enjoyment.

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    There was a good article about the Strongmans' car in the Sydney Morning Herald, 20 October 2000 (before it went to the Austalian National Museum); I'd remembered the quote about driving this car to the car show "was a bit like hanging a Rembrandt in the workshop"!

    http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/ar...leID=1882&vf=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innuendo View Post

    1st Sold

    It can go on and on...

    and on...!

    http://www.nma.gov.au/collections/hi...n-lewis-holden

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