The engine number not matching is not the issue. Your problem here is the chassis number does not match the ADR plate, therefore cannot be guaranteed as an authentic Sandman.
I would always recommend people keeping away from anything that is 'ground off' unless it has been replaced by a recognised authority and paperwork.
My suggestion is at that price, leave it in the barn!
Oh we'll move the search for a genuine Sandman to the next one. I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this post. I have learnt a lot in the last week. Thanks to my sandman.com
Last edited by Blocker; 02-02-2013 at 04:54 PM.
Do you mean that your chassis number doesn't match your ADR tag or that your body number on the trim tag doesn't match the VIN tag?Originally Posted by RAEME
If it is the chassis number and ADR tag then your van has had a replacement chassis at some time, if it is the body number and the VIN not matching, then that is the norm. It is rarer to find a body number matching the VIN than not, if it is on a van or ute that has had an Adelaide built body assembled with a chassis at any other plant in Australia, then it is almost guaranteed to be non matching. I currently have 2 HQs, 3 HXs, and 2 HZs in my yard, and out of all of them only one has matching tags, VIN to body tag and chassis to ADR tag.
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That car is my HQ Premier wagon, which according to records held by Byron also has its original engine number on the block, although there are some anomalies with the casting date. This car has only two spots of rust in the entire shell and they are in the doglegs between the rear wheel arches and the sills on both sides.
HQ Glacier White Belmont Ute
Wanted Lanspeed accessories for Holden Grey engines, twin carb manifolds, extractors, rocker cover, 3 speed floor shift.
^^This only applies to HJ-HZ vans assembled at Pagewood, and HQ-HZ vans and tonners assembled at Dandenong (for the Sandman period anyway, not talking about earlier HQ's). Utes (and all other body styles except vans and tonners) assembled at Dandenong and Pagewood have the BODY number matching the end of the VIN number. All Acacia Ridge vans and utes match too. Elizabeth assembled vehicles never matched prior to August 77, after that the BODY number matched the VIN. I think the only one i've never actually seen is an Acacia Ridge tonner!
(Note that there is maybe a handful of cars that don't fit the above, there is the odd one here or there that aren't vans or tonners that have the divorced body and assembly plants. Not sure why this happened but it did and normally in small groups, possibly due to a body plant breakdown at the assembly plant, or excess capacity out of another body plant due to an assembly plant breakdown. I've also left out the Mosman Park plant as this is prior to Sandman).
Yeah cheers for that mate. I did mean body number not chassis number my bad.
Why has that second tag no engine number was this a common thing on them
In the case of HQ it means the car was fitted with the standard lowest spec engine for that model. A real base model with a 3 speed manual would have the gearbox part blank too.
Edit- so 81235 is V8 premier wagon which means if would have a 253 as standard.
Last edited by playwme; 02-02-2013 at 09:55 PM.
Ok so it was a 253 trimatic so what ratio diff is gv3 sorry for all the questions just trying to learn a bit of info
Diff is 2.78:1 which was a standard ratio with V8 and Auto, particularly in Premier and Statesman as it gave "relaxed" highway cruising
HQ Glacier White Belmont Ute
Wanted Lanspeed accessories for Holden Grey engines, twin carb manifolds, extractors, rocker cover, 3 speed floor shift.
Ok thanks for that
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