Put your pics up here for future reference for others.
there are 4 types for HQ AFAIK, i am not 100% sure
HQ SS
HQ BELmont
HQ GTS
HQ Sandman
there are 10 types for HJ-HZ AFAIK ??
HJXZ Belmont / Kingswood
HJXZ Sandman / GTS
HJXZ stato
+ HZ SL/E
someone with a parts book may be kind enought to put the parts numbers up.
"All correspondence must bear these numbers"
HQ
Grill Assembly.... Belmont, Kingswood, Monaro ......... 2813762
Grill Assembly.... Premier, Monaro LS .................... 2813763
Grill Assembly.... GTS ......................................... 2813764
Grill Assembly.... SS, Sandman ............................. 9928882
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab ......................... 2823509
HJ
Grill Assembly.... (regular) Belmont, Kingswood, Monaro ......... 9931001
Grill Assembly.... Premier, LS, Ambulance ............................ 9931002
Grill Assembly.... (sports option) Utility, Panelvan ................. 9931003
Grill Assembly.... GTS .................................................. .... 9931003
Grill Assembly.... Upper De Ville ......................................... 9933086
Grill Assembly.... Upper Caprice ......................................... 9933085
Grill Assembly.... Lower Statesman .................................... 9932679
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab Chrome............................ 9934609
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab painted ........................... 2823509
HX
Grill Assembly.... Belmont, Utility, Panelvan ............. 9935967
Grill Assembly.... Kingswood ................................. 9941784
Grill Assembly.... Sandman ................................... 9941785
Grill Assembly.... GTS, LE ..................................... 9941785
Grill Assembly.... Premier, Ambulance ...................... 9941783
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab Chrome................ 9934609
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab painted ............... 2823509
Grill Assembly.... Upper De Ville ............................. 9941963
Grill Assembly.... Lower De Ville ............................. 9941958
Grill Assembly.... Upper Caprice ............................. 9941964
Grill Assembly.... Lower Caprice ............................. 9941957
HZ
Grill Assembly.... Kingswood, Utility, Panelvan ........... 9945938
Grill Assembly.... Premier, Ambulance ....................... 9945939
Grill Assembly.... GTS, Sandman ............................. 9945940
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab Chrome................. 9934609
Grill Assembly.... Chassis and Cab painted ................ 2823509
Grill Assembly.... De Ville upper and lower
Grill Assembly.... Caprice upper and lower
Grill Assembly.... SL/E upper and lower
From what I can see, the difference between Belmont, Kingswood, Premier, GTS and Sandman is the colour they are painted and the badging.
Belmont, Holden appear to be the plain grey moulded plastic .... Kingswood, Premier are painted silver ... GTS, Sandman are painted black. (exc. HQ)
I have heard rumours that the GTS and Sandman grills were actually moulded in black plastic but I am yet to see an actual black plastic grill... if anyone has a black grill that is actually black plastic could you please post up some pictures of it.
4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD
will take a pic. tomoz when it is lighter...but our two Vans have the black piece being plastic. One is broken (red Van) so can even send a little sample to you if you need it....I bought a new grille from a wrecker here, it was from Rares...it was metal, and we have to paint it black.....
If you are not going to use the black grill off the red HZ can I buy it off you? I am interested to see one moulded from black plastic and am interested in seeing if a broken one can be successfully repaired so yours would be perfect.Originally Posted by jennie285
4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD
absinth you can just have it....Rodney said he thinks it could easily be plastic welded back together..it could even be glued noone would know....but you are good with that sort of thing and would do a good job...the surround (chrome) is also bent...previous owner hit a bird.....you are in brisbane I have a friend who's daughter just had a baby and is off up there so can send it up with her...they are in Morayfield.....if that suits.
Thanks Jennie that would be great. I am on the South side but head up around Morayfield quite often for work so can arrange a time to pick it up. Much appreciated, it will be an interesting project.
4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD
Gday,
Yes, they can be repaired however, would never be as strong as the original moulding unless your beefed it up conciderably (Recommended) otherwise, hitting a bird at 100k's is sure to ruin your handywork. The weakest point I've found on mine is the 4 circular mounts on each corner.
Also, you forgot to mention the most important grill of all! The BBQ grill! Hehe
Cheers
to dam cold up here now for BBQ's gas on...:(Gday,
Yes, they can be repaired however, would never be as strong as the original moulding unless your beefed it up conciderably (Recommended) otherwise, hitting a bird at 100k's is sure to ruin your handywork. The weakest point I've found on mine is the 4 circular mounts on each corner.
Also, you forgot to mention the most important grill of all! The BBQ grill! Hehe
Cheers
when you start going thru those part numbers it is very confusing for people that havent had much experience..
in the hj it lists 2 upper grilles..one for deville and one for caprice but only one lower unlike the listings for hx and hz.
the upper grille was the same but for the caprice they only had 2 end mouldings with no upper grille moulding on the grille itself..the moulding for caprice in hj hx and hz was a diecast chrome part that actually bolted onto the top apron and overlapped the top of the grille...
in hx and hz for statesman deville and caprice the grilles were the same as each other but again the caprice got the big diecast bit....other differences was only colours of grille slats..
as for hq its the same grille with different paint combinations unless its a statesman..
i have never seen a black plastic moulded hq grille,i have however seen a very dark grey ...
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