Another Adjusting Problem on my WB!!!

[83 WB_Ute]

Well here goes the next adjusting problem.. lol

I have fitted a new clutch cable and adjusted it right up at the bell housing. After replacing it the clutch pedal seems very very short... I went to my manual and it said that the pedal should sit between 185.5mm and 190.5mm, mine is sitting at 111.5mm..

How else could I adjust it to get the pedal higher??

When the car is running and you push the clutch in, then when you go to change gears (column shift) it just grinds.. So I think the clutch is not engaging properly..

But the strange thing is when the car is turned off you can't change it between gears, none at all.. Which suggests its something wrong with the linkages..

I think that its a combination of the two, maybe the selectors are jambed up and that won't let me change gears at all.. While the clutch needs alot of adjusting to make the pedal the right height..

So I'm open to any suggestions as to why it may be doing it, and how to fix it.. lol

[thatotherguy]

for some reason the new thrust bearings are shorter than the originals ,not by much but enough to cause problems and it does sound like your column is jammed to free it you need to pull on the rods under the bonnet ( i think its the one closest to the fire wall that causes the problem) it should just pop up easily

[buck]

for some reason the new thrust bearings are shorter than the originals ,not by much but enough to cause problems and it does sound like your column is jammed to free it you need to pull on the rods under the bonnet ( i think its the one closest to the fire wall that causes the problem) it should just pop up easily

Also make sure the car is not resting or holding on the gear, otherwise you wont be able to pull the linkage up (if the linkages are jammed.)(normally between 1st and 2nd gear change Jamming)
Also with the clutch mine was grinding gears when i first got it, but just adjusted it at the clutch fork to give it more throw as it was just off the floor when the clutch would engauge, now about nearly halfway out when clutch engauages. this was about 4-5 turns i think.

[HK1837]

As above, you need to set them up at the clutch fork bal with bellhousing on before the box goes in. Make sure you didn't leave off the big washery looking bit off the bellhousing end of the cable ie left it on the old cable.

[83 WB_Ute]

for some reason the new thrust bearings are shorter than the originals ,not by much but enough to cause problems and it does sound like your column is jammed to free it you need to pull on the rods under the bonnet ( i think its the one closest to the fire wall that causes the problem) it should just pop up easily

Yeah, I have been reading up on it and have heard that the thrust bearing was the problem.. I sure as hell hope it isn't.. If it is it'll jsut give me an excuse to put the new reco motor in.. I've had to un-jamb the linkages before, I'll give it a go tomorrow..

Also make sure the car is not resting or holding on the gear, otherwise you wont be able to pull the linkage up (if the linkages are jammed.)(normally between 1st and 2nd gear change Jamming)
Also with the clutch mine was grinding gears when i first got it, but just adjusted it at the clutch fork to give it more throw as it was just off the floor when the clutch would engauge, now about nearly halfway out when clutch engauages. this was about 4-5 turns i think.

I was also thinking that, because the car was pushed to where it is sitting right now.. I'll move it abit and see how I go.. How do you adjust it at the clutch fork?? do you have to remove the gearbox or can it be done with the box in the car?? Is it strange if it wasn't doing it before I changed the clutch cable (the pedal did seem to have real short travel..)??

As above, you need to set them up at the clutch fork bal with bellhousing on before the box goes in. Make sure you didn't leave off the big washery looking bit off the bellhousing end of the cable ie left it on the old cable.

How do you adjust them up at the clutck fork?? What washery thing are you talking about?? The original cable didn't have a washer, but it had a radiator hose clip between the bell housing and the cable itself.. Looks like I may be after one of those washer thingos and the dust cover that covers the clutch fork opening..

Let me know if any of you have one and want to get rid of them..

Thanks for the help guys..

[thatotherguy]

sorry i didnt read it properly i thought you changed the clutch but you only changed the cable ? just make sure the new cable is identical to the old one maybe some one with a WB can put up some pics

[83 WB_Ute]

sorry i didnt read it properly i thought you changed the clutch but you only changed the cable ? just make sure the new cable is identical to the old one maybe some one with a WB can put up some pics

Yeah, only the cable cause the clutch was all good and I am going to put a 4speed and a new clutch in later.. The new cable was identical in length, but I have never seen the washer thing that HK1837 is refering to.. Anyone got pics of that???

[HK1837]

Ignore what I said, I was thinking about V8, they have a big thick cone shaped washer on the end of the cable.

You adjust the clutch fork pivot ball with the box out, and with the bellhouisng attached to the engine and all the clutch hooked up and working. It is a threaded rod with a ball on the end with a locknut on the shaft that locks it in place. If you have just changed the cable this probably won't be your problem though, but it may have already been there if other adjustments fail.

[wbute]

Was there a reason that you changed the cable?

[83 WB_Ute]

Ignore what I said, I was thinking about V8, they have a big thick cone shaped washer on the end of the cable.

You adjust the clutch fork pivot ball with the box out, and with the bellhouisng attached to the engine and all the clutch hooked up and working. It is a threaded rod with a ball on the end with a locknut on the shaft that locks it in place. If you have just changed the cable this probably won't be your problem though, but it may have already been there if other adjustments fail.

Cool, atleast I'm not missing something.. Righto, hopefully that doesn't need adjustment... I'm going to go and measure all the stuff and try to adjust the cable and see how I go..

Thanks for the help..

Was there a reason that you changed the cable?

I replaced it because the old one was stretched to the shit house and was spaced buy a radiator hose clamp so it would work properly.. lol