Is this Rebirthing or Restoring?

**Dylan** · 21-06-2012, 01:34 AM

The modifications were the VL diff being fitted from the reports I've read. Being a bit narrow compared to the VN version.

**playwme** · 21-06-2012, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by 0488TINTER

A little off topic but you can only reshell a VN Group A wit a VN Group A shell
they're factory modified in the rear wheel arches

You can reshell a VN group A with a Toyota Lexcen body as long as the guy you sell it to doesn't know what he's looking for. Rebirthers don't care about factory authentic. Make the price too good to refuse and someone will snap it up as long as it has the right plates present. There was a guy on TT/ACA not long ago purchased a good priced VC Brock without getting a proper inspection only to find the car had a very obvious and not very good cut and shut.

**jennie285** · 21-06-2012, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by wbute

Its a bit different when they are cutting out the chassis number and replacing it though, which is where this thread differs from the standard tag swap thread.

that is why I replied the way I did....nothing wrong with a re-body if the shell has rusted or been in an accident, in the day you would have done exactly that. In fact there is HX sandman which has a mismatching chassis in Parkes. It was done before the owner who bought it in 1978, and he had no idea until we read the tags for him...the guy knew it had been in an accident as it had a HZ front end on it, but didn't know they had slapped a different chassis under it...back then who cared about matching numbers...

**0488TINTER** · 21-06-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dylan

The modifications were the VL diff being fitted from the reports I've read. Being a bit narrow compared to the VN version.

Both the VN Group A and SV5000 were fitted with VL diffs to allow for the, then huge, 8" rims but the Group A also had the wheel arches modified
Im actually selling one fora mate if you know anyone looking

**HZSandman** · 21-06-2012, 01:07 PM

I keep reporting tag selling on EBay to their "Report Item" option and they don't take them down.

They are illegal to sell and EBay has a policy of removing them but lately they have failed to do so.

**sandman77hx** · 21-06-2012, 01:24 PM

it's that old chestnut....if something is too good to be true, it usually is.

**HZSandman** · 21-06-2012, 06:39 PM

who remembers this GTR scam from about 5 years ago on EBay. Looks like it is back on the scammers register. They are even using the same pics.

This is a scam. SCAM, in capitals

Bid $100K and see what happens.[COLOR="Silver"]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271002965...84.m1423.l2649

**hqgts** · 21-06-2012, 06:51 PM

The term "Matching numbers" in respect to holdens is an often misused term.... In fact generally the only thing that you can match is the chassis to the compliance plate on holdens from about 1970 on.... Holden did not care about provenance or ensuring that the serial numbers on all major components matched....

For a true matching numbers car you would need to buy a (gulp) ford.....
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**HK1837** · 21-06-2012, 07:51 PM

On many Holdens and Toranas the PSN matches the BODY number too. But i've never thought that was what matching numbers meant. I always took it to mean all the stuff on the car is original ie plates and engine and chassis. It can only be proven with log books and sales receipts though.

**sandasharpe** · 21-06-2012, 08:34 PM

Maybe we're missing the point here? This guy is not bring a car back or making a good one out of parts and falls foul of the law. He's selling plates and a section of the original chassis! There can be only one intention here. The original car is gone.