Thinly disguised? Sorry James, I saw absolutely no trace of a disguise in that comment.
Thinly disguised? Sorry James, I saw absolutely no trace of a disguise in that comment.
hard to say if its a repro, but im going with most likely. the plastic piece that would have one day had a horn button on it is different to the original ones i have and seems to have the electrical horn contacts moulded onto it by the looks, mind you i only have hq-x caps. the originals had a floating basket that sat inside the wheel boss area and had brass threads to make the horn go honk.
here is a pic of my NOS wheel (3mm spokes) in its off the shelf condition, on the left is the hq/j horn cap and the basket:
going on your photo though, the ignition barrel being black and glove box having a black latch means your car is HZ, so the horn cap may have had the x-shaped plastic in it... i'd need someone else to confirm this.
the easiest way to check is to take it off and look for the holden stamping on the back of the boss area.
Last edited by the ski man; 17-03-2012 at 05:08 PM.
^^^^the things people have stashed
I have just had discussions with Vicroads who confirm that our obligation at Rare Spares is to produce a steering wheel that conforms to current ADR 12 requirements. You can view the ADR on the Government web site.The take on GMH saving money is yours as the ADR's were taken from European Standards that were in place at the time. To have their vehicles comply then a number of changes were made by GMH, which included the wheels. This has been confirmed by ex Bridgestone management who were involved in the changes. Having a HQ with a thicker spoke wheel still allows it to retain it's registration, however it's when a NEW wheel is fitted that is the concern.The liability is if people decide to fit a thicker spoke wheel to anything other than a HQ. We don't make the legislation but have to follow it.
How many other parts do you make at rare spares that have to meet ADR's?
Parts that are required to meet ADR's. Such as the thousands of park lamp assemblies supplied to GMH, that have to be certified as well, from HJ to VP.
How many of those parts are ADR specific to a particular series of car but can be interchanged with later series cars?
Please be advised that the ADR's are not specific vehicle identified. A vehicle must meet all the ADR requirements if it is ADR applicable. Some vehicles may be exempt.It is the owners responsibility to maintain a vehicle in ADR requirements, as governed by the federal and state road authorities. That is one reason that people get pulled up or have regular roadworthy inspections.To get a better understanding of regulations etc it may be more informative for you to speak to someone from your state transport authority. As for the parts themselves it is often people modifying vehicles that look at what they can interchange and make those decisions.
Yeah I asked a leading question there I am afraid. So in your answer you should be able to make 5 mm wheels with no issues at all. As you said, you can't be responsible for people correctly fitting them. So it is a cost cutting exercise and not a legal reason at all.
A couple of pointsOriginally Posted by wbute
If it was a cost cutting exercise so what are we not allowed to save money.
To make the thicker spoke would cost bugger all .
We are not responsible for what the customer does but in case of accident if the thicker spoke wheel was fitted there is a possibility of legal action against us so why take the chance.
Les
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