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    in need of some opinions on this van

    hi guys i have came across this van which im told is a genuine hz sandy L31 with original motor and chassis, i am still waiting for an email with the tag info but it looks to have all original interior and full hoodlining aswell as black door handles and so forth,has some rust but i think will make a good project as its been offered to me for only $4500, i need some opinions on if it looks to be a genuine sandman, will post some pics of the tags as soon as i get photos cheers



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    Nice find, but it also looks like a Kingswood. Wait till you get the Id plates for better info :smile:

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    yeah there is a few things i am doubting at the moment! is the rear bumper a standard kingswood bumper and also the door trims look like kingswood aswell

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    You just cannot tell from an exterior walk around. To know if it is a Sandman, you have to get the ID plates at the very least.

    Get a photo of them rather than the guy sending you an email, chasis number will also confirm if it is original body/chasis.

    Good luck.

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    As Blocker say's the tag info will tell a lot more... If the steering colomn and indicator stalk are original the the car than it is not a Kingswood.... the rear bar is a modification and is off a sedan or wagon.... looking at the pics there is a good chance it is a Sandman and not bad buying at the price.... pity about the sunroof but that can be fixed...

    A far better buy than this one currently on Ebay....

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170477582997
    4/75 HJ XX7 Sandman Panelvan ... Persian Sand currently restoring
    7/76 HX Monaro 4dr 308 4sp... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell.. SOLD
    3/77 HX Sandman Panelvan ... Absinth Yellow and rusty as hell .. SOLD

    http://www.44gpw.info/sandman-decalssmall2.jpg

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    HZ on Ebay

    Ansinth,
    The one on Ebay looks to have a single headlight front end radiator support panel, so it maybe a HX or the radiator support panel has been changed, or not a sandman
    Nor does it have a radial tuned suspension badge on the rear tailgate, but does have one on the dash....so it appears to be a HZ dash....said by Rodney
    What do you think, some cars are confusing until you look at the ID Plates

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    very confusing there are a lot of things to go over when you havent seen the id tags i cant wait to see these tags i think they will check out ok. would be a good buy at 4500 i think especially as it is L31 4 speed

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    If nothing else, for the price, you get running gear, and parts, but I reckon it is a good buy, and you would have a good resto.....and having that full hoodlining it looks to be a Sandman....and it will be interesting to see on the tags, what colour it is meant to be...

    sorry Absinth, i spelt your name wrong:o

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    hmmm I thought I replied to this thread they day you posted it. Looks like I didnt =)

    If I had to guess from photos I will say yes its sandman. Little things that people dont worry about when doing a mock.
    Correct HZ steering wheel horn cap. The earlier ones look better so why would the use a HZ one.
    black door handles.
    dash all looks original. inc crash pad/glovebox etc.
    steering coloum.

    The ignition switch is correct for very early HZ also. (chrome.) glovebox one is ment to be chrome too. pity its not there.

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