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    My Holden book gives 452 576 as a number built for cars,wagons,vans,utes,and, cab-chassis.18,092 for statesmans and 13,782 for monaro's and if I'am reading the book correctly 1200 SS's for HQ's.
    HJ's there were 154,144 cars,wagons,vans,utes,and cab-chassis.8,383 statesmans and 4,754 monaro's.I know this doesn't answer the question but if these number are right it gives a starting position.the book is the history of Holden since 1917 by Norm Darwin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodneyHZ253 View Post
    HJ's 4,754 monaro's.
    I assume that includes 4 door Monaro's? The HJ Coupes are supposed to be pretty rare aren't they?

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    Numbers would include all monaro's

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    Hmmm, Terry Bebbingtons 50 years of holden gives different numbers to those.Total HJ @176202 but no break down on what is what. 485650 HQ's, 110000HX, and 154000 HZ.

    That would have to leave the assumption that after HQ due to the short Sandman run, HX is the next rarest and there should have been more HJ than any others. Who knows though.

    Why are there different build numbers anyway? Holden must have run a couple of sets of books to keep the accountants happy:Chin:

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    I wouldn't take too much notice of published figures. For a start there were 2800 HQ SS made. HJ coupes were 943 total. Sandman we will never know. I plan to count how many V8 HZ Dandenong vans were built and compare it to how many I have recorded to get a ballpark estimate for what percentage I have compared to how many were built. This will only be an order of magnitude thing though.

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    the 1200 HQ SS number is the amount of series 1 produced 8/72 + 9/72
    then they did a second batch of 1600 10/72 + 11 / 72 to make 2800 total. so i can understand the confusion there...
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    Other way around, 1600 first type SS, 1200 second type.

    Dr Terry's figures will be about the best you'll find anywhere outside of those limited number vehicles I can quote you that have actually been counted off the original records (note, HQ SS are not "limited numbers" for this discussion, i'm talking about vehicles built in the 100's like HJ LS, HQ GTS350 etc).

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    Were there any HQ ss sedans made in 12/72 as you post only lists 8,9,10,11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stak211 View Post
    Were there any HQ ss sedans made in 12/72 as you post only lists 8,9,10,11
    The HQ SS was released in 8/72 & the first batch (1600) sold out very quickly. The 2nd batch (1200) began production in 10/72.

    1200 cars was a small run for Holden in those days, they were building HQs (in several factories) at around 12,000 per month in total !!

    I'm pretty certain that production of HQ SSs was all over before the end of 11/72. I'm happy to be corrected on that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Terry View Post
    The HQ SS was released in 8/72 & the first batch (1600) sold out very quickly. The 2nd batch (1200) began production in 10/72.

    1200 cars was a small run for Holden in those days, they were building HQs (in several factories) at around 12,000 per month in total !!

    I'm pretty certain that production of HQ SSs was all over before the end of 11/72. I'm happy to be corrected on that point.

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