Another "is this a sandman" question, sorry

[harvo]

Hi everyone, just signed up and it's a great site.


Anyhow the van in question is my fathers, he's had it for over 20 years. He love's the thing as do I and we are considering restoring it.

So the info I've got from the van is

8M70TJL441018Z

HZ8WM70
Body No#: 441018-A
Trim: 1189-63C
Paint: 568-10681

Engine: L31
Trans: M21
Axle: GV4

It's got twin light front, gts dash & mirrors, buckets, console, full roof lining....

Just as a side note we had a guy telling us a fanciful story that this van is one of only 3 HZ's painted in this color, I'm still not convinced it's a sandman.

Appreciate all opinions and I'll throw up a pic too





Cheers Dan

[Blocker]

A 1980 HZ... the last Sandman van rolled off the line in October 1979.

That paint code you have supplied, I cannot find a reference to it in the HZ Sandman paint list. Maybe someone can enlighten us a bit better.

[Absinth]

1189 is Spanish Red which is a 1969 HT colour so it is a rare colour on a HZ. 63C trim code is Buckskin which was not available on late base model HZ's unless it was a Sandman.

I would like to see pics of the 3 plates as it does appear to be a Sandman. We need to see the build date, GVW and if it is a two seater. I assume it has a full headlining.

More info and pics are needed to identify this van....

[Blocker]

Absinth,
I agree need to see adr plate, but the vin plate indicates it was a 1980 build. This might be interesting.

[HZSandman]

I can not find the paint code anywhere (10681), are you sure it is not 10981 (firethorn Red) which is a late HZ colour?

Very interesting van.

Has signs of plenty of modifications. WB rear lights, side skirting, no black door handles, but the doors look a different shade of red which may suggest they have been replaced. I noticed there is no GTS mirror on the 2nd picture as well, indictating bingle/new door. If it is in original paint??? it shows signs of Sandman with the blackouts.

All 3 tags please.

[harvo]

Ok, thanks guys


I'll try get pics of the plates tomorrow. This thing needs some love but convincing the old man to do it back to original is going to be a mission but if it's not a sandman then I guess it doesn't really matter.


Thanks again
Dan

[harvo]

I can not find the paint code anywhere (10681), are you sure it is not 10981 (firethorn Red) which is a late HZ colour?

Very interesting van.

Has signs of plenty of modifications. WB rear lights, side skirting, no black door handles, but the doors look a different shade of red which may suggest they have been replaced. I noticed there is no GTS mirror on the 2nd picture as well, indictating bingle/new door. If it is in original paint??? it shows signs of Sandman with the blackouts.

All 3 tags please.

Paint code could have been mixed up easy enough

Handles are black there just shitty pics, and dad prefers the WB lights:errf: paint is really bad 20+ years as a work truck and never garaged, the mirrors were pilfered for the new work hack too

Black handles and some rear trim (and the new mule)


Cheers

[HZSandman]

Just of the top of my head....Going out on a limb...I thinks it is a Sandman.

But the plates will tell for sure.

Does he have the original purchase documentation as well?

[harvo]

Does he have the original purchase documentation as well?

Nah I don't think so

[HZSandman]

Any 20 yr old pics?