These are the rare coloured Sandmans so far to look out for.

**stickthis** · 01-02-2011, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by HK1837

1937: 1 x HZ van (series I). 1 x HZ ute (series II).

I didnt think the Saddle Tan Van you had was a sandman? Or have I got this wrong or have you found another? Mine is the ute. (well its meant to be brown)

**HK1837** · 01-02-2011, 08:00 AM

Must be a new one since I told you what I had last. It is an Elizabeth 3/78 18V XX7 van, in L31 M41 GU4 spec (I don't record where the ID came from or when simply so that the database has no references to any personal or vehicle location details). The non-Sandman is a 4/78 63V Kingswood ute in L31 M21 GV4 spec. Yours is a "series II" example as it has Commodore trim (I'll stop calling them series I and II HZ or it'll be all over Ebay in no time like you see with HK Monaro and GTS!).

**stickthis** · 01-02-2011, 05:47 PM

ah must be a new one. Cool. Wonder if it is done to original colour or not.

Series I and II lol. Like the HQ SS? haha. oh dear.

**Rolla** · 01-02-2011, 06:45 PM

The persian sand MKII metalic. Is that slightly darker than the normal persian sand metalic? :Chin:

**mrsandman** · 02-02-2011, 01:37 AM

i dont know if im getting lost in this conversation but here goes! a while ago i sent through all my sandmans and maybe also monaros details to monaroparts.com , one of these was my saddle hz van, is this the one you have listed or is mine another? so any way is saddle and bordeaux rare or not so?

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i just checked tags, seems it may be mine. L31 M41 gu4 1937-18v Hz8Wm70 567-30528 3-78 2000kg 2 seater Adelaide built 3/78

if you want to check your register and add my new ones that you dont have let me know, also HQ coupe and HQ SS. you also have numbers off my haywood overlander sandman ute number 11 ,

**agr071** · 02-02-2011, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by mrsandman

you also have numbers off my haywood overlander sandman ute number 11 ,

Would love to see pics of this one.

**HK1837** · 02-02-2011, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by mrsandman

i dont know if im getting lost in this conversation but here goes! a while ago i sent through all my sandmans and maybe also monaros details to monaroparts.com , one of these was my saddle hz van, is this the one you have listed or is mine another? so any way is saddle and bordeaux rare or not so?

--- Updated ---

i just checked tags, seems it may be mine. L31 M41 gu4 1937-18v Hz8Wm70 567-30528 3-78 2000kg 2 seater Adelaide built 3/78

if you want to check your register and add my new ones that you dont have let me know, also HQ coupe and HQ SS. you also have numbers off my haywood overlander sandman ute number 11 ,

That would be me. Monaro and SS details were sent on to Ben Stewart for the MOnaro Register. And that van would be yours. Most HX Overlanders were Sandmans!

**stickthis** · 02-02-2011, 07:55 AM

mrsandman. Would love to see some pics of your saddle tan van. Have you done it to original?

**mrsandman** · 02-02-2011, 09:14 AM

the van is need of restoration, it still is in its original paint and stipes, just rusty and faded. of all my sandmans the only one done is a L31 M21 mandarine HX ute. it is still matching numbers but original engine i rebuilt to L34 specs including heads, runs 355 sals lsd and the M21. Nice cruiser

Is this the only one known in saddle? was it rare in its day or just not around anymore? I cant remember seeing any before.

**HK1837** · 02-02-2011, 09:55 AM

That is the only Sandman van I have recorded in that colour, so I guess that makes it "scarce" today, but I can't answer the question about how rare it was or wasn't in it's day. Being L31 M41 (or any auto for that matter) makes it pretty rare in Sandman full stop. Outside of GTS, LS, Premiers and Statesmans M41 was pretty scarce in any HJ-HZ, especially commercial vehicles. Even HJ-HZ Premiers are scarce in L31 M41 guise.